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I totally disagree with your support of the UK moving to a federal system.
What has the existing devolved system actually achieved, it has brought about division between the four people's of our nation by allowing those national socialist parties in Scotland and Wales and unjustifiably allowing a terrorist group  in  Northern Ireland that seek to destroy the Union to exert power over the citizens of the UK who reside in the national regions.
No sovereign nation can govern itself by dividing the role of Government to the regions, as the vested interests of regional politicians will always reduce the efficiency of Government overall, while at the same time vastly increasing the cost of Government for all taxpayers by over duplicating every area of public expenditure on provision of public services, by taking control of salary increments, by setting regional pensions scales for local officials and removing central scrutiny control of imprudent public spending from the hands of the elected national Government.
It is also extremely unfair that the politicians running the UKregions can seek more and more autonomous  power over their region, which is denied to the elected MP's of other regions of the UK but seek to influence the life choices of UK citizens residing outside of their region through their regional MP's.
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John I have to agree with your comments.This United Kingdom is no longer United.It should never have been divided into individual parts.It was a very bad move on the part of Government.Or did the directive come from Brussels?
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Firstly I will reiterate my position on devolved Government, I am firmly opposed the the whole concept of devolved Government. There can only be one Governing body in a sovereign state, to say that each component region must be treated as equals would require that each region contribute equally to the state treasury, not only is that not the case at present but it is patently obvious that they could never under any circumstances find the capital resources to do so.

The pre-devolution system comprised :

Central Government which collects all taxes that then facilitate the funding of all public services, the maintenance of law and order, the court sytem and the defence of the realm.

Local authorities who depend on the limited powers gifted by parliament are established at County level and where appropriate metropolitan Councils for very large urbanisation's, below this are the borough Councils and parish councils, all these authorities are based on a system of subordination to the authority immediately superior to their own with ultimate power eminating down from central Government.
This system retains the link between the people and local decision makers at local levels and the ability of central government to restrict the power of local politicians from overstepping their remit.

Devolved Government allows the regionally elected Government to abuse their powers to the detriment of the regional populations by overspending in certain areas of policy that may not benefit all the people equally, for example the efficiency of the NHS in Wales which lags far behind the performance of the NHS elsewhere in the UK.

Devolved Government adds another layer of expenditure that has to be funded through taxation and irrationally in the UK model there is the anomaly of the Barnett formula subsidy that unfairly penalises the majority of the population who live in England, this Labour initiative was only supposed to be a temporary subsidy that would exist only until the devolved Governmental systems established themselves, but temporary normally becomes permanent under Labour.

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I have an issue with devolving local authorities being totally responsible for raising all their own money.  I think that this allows central government from taking any responsibility for public services and when and if, their are problems they will be blamed not the lack of support from government. It is a very sneaky way of not taking responsibility for anything! A lack of resources, whether it be in Social Care,  roads, libraries etc.,can be blamed on local government rather than central government starvation of funding!
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Literally buck-passing!
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Let's keep the Fed out of this debate!
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Hi Peter,
I take your point about the devolution of government to Scotland,Wales and N. Ireland. I did go off point making reference to local government rather than for the other countries in the Union, which is different. I do approve of the devolution of Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland as long as they all stay in the Union! The devolution of local authorities is about passing the buck but the same can't be said for the devolved government Scotland. I think maybe using the word devolution was not correct maybe localism would be more suitable. The facts are however the same, localism will help the government abdicate responsiblity for lack of funding and resources and blame local authorities for shortfalls claiming they have not spent thier funding wisely.  
It makes sense for Scotland to govern itself as it has a different set of circumstances and has a different history and culture from England, many differences but many similarities if you like. Hopefully we will continue to remain the UK.
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I would immediately remove all devolved powers and return those powers to central Government
All devolved Government does is provide a platform for untalented individuals who for the most part would be better off working as traffic wardens or lollypop ladies where their quest for power over others could do little damage, an added bonus to such a move would be that they would then be paid commensurate to their abilities.
As an example of the damage that devolved Government can achieve we only have to look at Belgium where a devolved region was able to delay the enaction of a trade agreement between all the EU member states would be able to access to the Canadian market for months.
Another case of the tail wagging the dog.
Devolution = Chaos= Mismanagement=Financial Waste & Corruption.
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