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hi the student fees are rised because the torys do not want the poor or undiserving to be educated only the ones whos parents can bail them out if not now but later.
I dont agree with how much is been given to the EU and we have are own diserving here the disabiled for a start dont mean test us again with a bogus company ASOS who were thrown out of USA for messing up there and we have them here prob cheapist one avalable bais questioning because they get paid for every person they get off help.
If we came out of EU then the torys could do whatever they wanted ( yes worse than now) no one to answer too.
Talking of answering to the torys are trying to cut funding for the organsation that deals with Human Rights Act.
Do you really know whats happening what the film 1984
Hayley Hayley
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Yes Jojo, you are rather undeserving as you are a simpleton who can't spell or put together basic dialogue.
All right, point made albeit rather contradictory.The lib dems whom are so unbelievable liberal to everyone's "english" heritage and detriment and yes it is more like being a second class citizen in your own country, so I have signed the "Get us out of Europe Pledge" in order for us to rally up our former rights that our forefathers died for in the first and second class wars, and as standing citizens of this country, more reform, less meddling instead of being blighted by the condescending, totalitarian regime of the EU, having to dictate to us every five minutes.

Would I be righteous in implying that -
The "type" of people who would vote Libdems are
1)Liberal to our detriment.
2)Paedophiles(Prisoners and undiscovered paedos who are trailing the net daily for kiddies or involved in child sex rings.)
3)Murderers(Prisoners or those who believe that if they commit a crime they still have as many rights as citizens who are hard working and law abiding.)
4)Insane.
5) Socialist students, who are still wet behind the ears, for being so gullible as to have voted LD in order to obtain "free" student fees, to suit their needs and then when these students are one day earning big, fat pay-cheques they will sway the other way.
5) So called, interfering, meddling, "do gooders" who are messing everything up.
6)Want a complete socialist system and migrants to encompass us to our detriment,abolish our traditions and our heritage and have that same EU monster suck us dry and guzzle the millions out of our pockets on a daily basis.
IS Nick Clek( A non euro-sceptic)
Looking after his OWN arse to the detriment of everyone else and the AV voting system which is a complete and total con/sham. Non AV is the way to go, more definitive , clear and concise way of totalling up the parties voting  constitutions + we don't get the BNP !

By the way, I am an educated person who deserves a chance, more than willing to pay my lot by being taxed by a fair and just society and able to work hard, have an IQ of 118 and can do better than the lowly paid menial work that is thrown at me!! I am sure my studies will pay off, if not in this country then another !!!!
derfledermause derfledermause
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Please remember, we voted to join "The common market" way back then. We did NOT vote to join Hitlers 4th Reich. Get out now...
Doreen Doreen
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Yes we voted to get into the common market but our forefathers fought the second world war for our rights to be maintained not to eventually be eroded such as the case with the EU and yes we should only trade with the EU not become fully integrated with them.

Get us out of the EU !!! Only to trade. Allow Britian to trade with other countries outside the EU to create more jobs for us.
Doreen Doreen
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Who is saying anything about joining Hitler's Reich, what an unpleasant thing to say, we all accept cultural integration in this day and age, without that dreadful word "Liberalism" being force fed or jammed down our throats at every conniving, opportunity.
Peter. C Peter. C
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Hayley,
I would say you have summed up the Lib Dem party in your comment and Nick Clegg has betrayed his party beyond belief....

The lib dem party shall pay the price in the next election and anyone wanting to land a direct hit on Nick Clegg's nose.....
Then vote No for AV and stand back and watch the lib dem party melt away like snow on a hot day and disappear down the sewers where they should end up for their blatant betrayal of their party and voters, all for their 15 mins of fame. I was going to say power but they have no real power because they really want PR and not AV but had to settle for the scrapes from Cameron's table....

I disagree you have summed up those who voted Lib Dem, you cannot con/dem those who rightly or wrongly have grown sick of the two main party's labour and Tory and looking towards the alternative party, who happened to be the lib dem party....

I do agree that our forefathers fought and died for their sons and daughters freedom and betterment, and yes our freedoms and betterment is slowly being passed away by each successive government regardless of which party is in power.
I also agree we need to leave the EU........

However apart from the reasonable points you made.....
I found your attack on JoJo utterly disgusting and diluted your points....
I have copied and pasted below the comment about Jojo where you said....

"Yes Jojo, you are rather undeserving as you are a simpleton who can't spell or put together basic dialogue".

I mean why!!!.......absolutely no need for this attack on anyone who may not be well educated as you feel you are....

You quite rightly highlighted what "all" our forefathers fought and died for....

Which I am sure many of those forefathers were not highly educated but still fought and died for your freedoms..... it was not solely you forefathers who fought and died....

Jojo has every right to view her points no matter what you feel about her spelling or grammar....

You obviously see yourself as something/someone more special than some, I only hope people like you are few and far between, you are the type that can look down on people as if their views aren't need or valued.....

To Jojo,
Keep posting and do not allow anyone to prevent you from airing your views ;-)
Peter C
Doreen Doreen
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Anyone who is literate, numerate and articulate and whom wants to obtain an office job deserves to be given a chance in life. People should not constrict others whom are naturally bright and want to enter a profession to better themselves or whom are studying, they should not be kept down by the mugs and should be allowed 3 months(companies should not be allowed to fire staff under 3 months, there should be a probationary period or settlement time to settle into their role at hand with regards to the technicalities of the role) probationary period, people are not robots and should not be expected to learn everything within 2 days, which is plain pathetic and no one can do this, honestly, I know because I was told that I had to know everything in two days for a massive company. They should encourage and give others a chance. Some people are too qualified to do menial work and should not do a stupid menial labour job because they are qualified in doing something else.
No one wants to work for some red necked, pedantic hedantic who expects the world from them at the beginning of the second day.

People do not want to do crappy menial work who are learned and educated and whom have had office experience. Please do not keep us down, uplift us.
Doreen Doreen
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I am sorry for my attack on Jojo as I thought she was taking the piss out of people who were less educated than herself and maybe she was a prankster as I admit, I have also written lazily and jokingly and I was not referring to her as such just to her joking around, her form of dialogue construct is rather joking and she seems intelligent but was doing this as a joke so i joked with her not intentionally being serious at all. I am sure she is as educated than me but merely taking the piss. Sorr Jojo:(
Doreen Doreen
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Yes|Robert you are right, sorry Jojo, I do not look down on you but as your equal and contemporary, we are all The People involved in this nation even though some ridicule others' dialogue rather funnily. Sorry babe ;) Sorry Robert:)
Doreen Doreen
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I have one question Robert. Ur idieal party would be the UKIP?? Mine is now. I am thinking of voting them for the next election and yes the Tories have let us down to an extent. So The UKIP is the better party ?? To get us out of Europe.
Doreen Doreen
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David Cameron is doing a better job so glad to see he went to Middle East as we are trading with them. Good on Cams ol boy!
Doreen Doreen
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Even clever people whom did not due particularly well at school due to immaturity, lack of interest or bullying cannot obtain roles in jobs in which they would like to work, due to an overtly excessive population growth of the one migrant per minute coming into our country!! What is wrong with everyone? A fully literate, well educated and numerate person with an above average IQ cannot obtain a job.
Big fattie Jessy Big fattie Jessy
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Eh eh eh eh , I was skewled heere in the UEK. so hope my friends, eh eh. ah booollocks!! i am do a refund soon from my tax man..eh i mean the postman.
tufftimes tufftimes
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Im sorry paul but saying that there will be a stuggle for power and territory and possibly war just becuase we leave the EU is nonsense. No ones going to go to war over that.

As far as trading goes it wouldnt stop. We import so much from Europe and they wouldnt want that stop especialy germany.

They also wouldnt make traveling any harder because European countrys are one of the biggest holidays spots for Brits and the amount of money we spend going on holiday to these places and the amount of money that is injected into their economy is massive, it would be a big hit for them if this was reduced so i dont think it would happen.

I know what i would rather do with £45 million a day... give it to the Armed Forces or education department.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Zbpa3i4HY&feature=related

docgeo docgeo
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Portugal now, where will it stop?

Referendum plain "In or Out" now.

For too long we have been cheated and lied to by succesive governments about the true aims of the EU and I fail to see how anyone in their right mind can think "we are better off in."
TJ TJ
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Yes...Portugal now.....then Spain no doubt......we'll have to suffer more and more cuts to prop up this sinking ship........If you want out of EU then I urge you to vote UKIP in the 5th May elections and also on the same day vote YES in the AV referendum.........A success for AV will mean that UKIP will at last gain some seats in parliament at the next general election and may well overtake LIB DEM to become the third party.......UKIP are our only chance of getting out of the EU before it bankrupts us.
Turn away from the '3 stoogies', CON/LIB/LAB ,who are all 'tarred with the same brush, and who between them, for one reason and another have destroyed this country bit by bit........we have to suffer while they give our taxes away to prop up Europe, in aid to the rest of the world, and wars that we should never be involved in........we are such mugs for standing for it.........make this our 'revolution' at the ballot box and abandon the big 3 parties.......you know it makes sense........save what we can of our country in the hope that we can pass on a better life to our grandchildren.
Peter. C Peter. C
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Docgeo,

I totally agree with you it simple Mr Cameron.....

Give us our right to determine if we the public think being in the EU is in our best interests....

Remember you lot of politicians regardless if you are Tory, Labour you all backed the deregulation of the Banks and told us that that was in the best interest of the public and how wrong did you lot get that decision on our behalf, it has caused the melt down of our country, as is your decision to keep us shackled to the EU.....


Now give "US" our referendum with a plain choice Yes or No to being in or out the EU.
Peter C
thomas vigar thomas vigar
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david has bent backwards to please that europhile nick and given him the AV referendum - David why don't you listen to the people who elected you and give us a referendum on the EU
Peter Colclough Peter Colclough
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Paulo,

While I understand your pov....think beyond what you are saying.

Europe becomes stronger than America....then America joins Europe, and together we are stronger than Asia. Then asia joins with Russia, then that whole section joins with Europe and America, then....
Oops....we need a new territory.....the moon perhaps? Mars?

This is where global competition falls flat on it's face. When the whole world us one country, with one currency, where do we go? All the differentials that we enjoy, when we travel , have gone.

This us not the way forward.....imvho
Peter. C Peter. C
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Thomas,

I totally agree with your comments as do most of the indigenous people here in the UK....

All you have to do is take a look at the topic....... "Has David Cameron gone far enough on Immigration".

Cameron and Clegg are not listening to the people of the UK on Immigration and if you have not heard or visited this website....... http://www.peoplespledge.org

If you want a referendum on whether remain in the EU or not sign up and give your support to get the referendum we should have had and not the referendum on AV which was a bribe to Nick Clegg and libdem supporting the Tory party!

The more people that sign up the more we can force the referendum on the EU and getting out the EU would close our boarders to anyone in Europe coming here to the UK because right now if for example everyone in Poland or and EU country wanted to up sticks and come live here in the UK there is no Law to Prevent them from doing so.....

Our forefathers did not fight and die for politicians to fling open our boarders for Our Land to be taken from their Sons and Daughters!

If you agree please forward this website ......  http://www.peoplespledge.org
To everyone you know......

Oh and just as an added benefit for getting out the EU is that we would save £40 million per day!

Simple maths tells us that Britain paying £40 million a day to the EU would mean an annual contribution of £14.6 billion.
Peter C
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